It’s time for some fantastic questions from B.rad podcast listeners! 

We start by talking about how testosterone blood values can fluctuate based on lifestyle factors and how Ancestral Supplements MOFO is actually a food supplement that boosts the nutrient density of your diet (along with other superfoods and superfood smoothies). This leads to me touching on the benefits of consuming liver, other organ meats, and bone broth, as well as how to deal with problems that arise when attempting to reduce carb intake for Paleo or keto dietary goals (hint: there are many ways to screw this up and furthermore reducing carb intake may not be necessary for many healthy, athletic types, especially fit females). Finally, a listener asks an important question: is a cheat day a good idea, or a bad one? This inspires me to consider a new idea: how about calling it a celebration day, with well-chosen and fully enjoyed indulgences? Thanks for listening and if you have any questions or comments you’d like included in an upcoming Q&A show, click here!


Brian asks, now that he is in his 50s and a retired triathlete, how does he stay fit in a new way? Do more explosive things and back off a bit. [05:26]

Rick Mueller is asking about MOFO assignment number 10 which is “Quit being a dick to your wife or girlfriend.” Stay cool. [15:37]

Amy Noble wants to know if you do a long run or workout at your maximum aerobic heart rate is bad. [25:07]

The Carnivore Food Ranking Chart is discussed when a listener asks about bovine colostrum. It’s good to eat nose to tail. [31:41]

Mike from Maryland’s question is about the MOFO supplement. When eaten, organs and glands selectively travel to the corresponding organs in the human. [33:13]




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And so when you answer a thoughtful question that is of relevance to a larger audience, I will cover them on Q and A shows. Brad (4m 40s): So I’m doing my best to hit the important talking points that are relevant to everyone. And please frame your question accordingly, if it’s too individual or nuanced or personal, it’s probably not great. I still make an effort to provide an answer to people, especially if you’re needing clarification about something we recorded or wrote with the email. And you know, we want to keep things, keep things real here. So it is, it is great to get these emails and review them. And I really appreciate the compliments too. Cause as you might imagine, when you’re recording, sitting in a closet, staring at the wall and wondering if anyone’s going to listen, then I get an email from La Reunion. Brad (5m 27s): Any astute geography fans out there? Yes, that’s the island off the coast of Madagascar. It’s a French territory and I have listeners down there too. Can you believe it? I almost did a triathlon there many decades ago. And I concluded I had the globe out and it seemed like the furthest away on the globe, almost that I could get from my home in Los Angeles at the time. And I didn’t go. Too bad, but at least I’m recording a podcast and having it played in the La Reunion. Off to the races and the letters. So here’s old time triathlete Brian right in, Hey man, I grew up in the Bay Area. Brad (6m 10s): I did USTS back in the early eighties. Now I’m 50 and I’ve done 95 triathlons since 2004. Wow. I’ve been exploring carnivore in the last few years and also doing some explosive exercise activities. Well, that’s good news, Brian, because that long-term triathlon career. That’s wonderful. I’m sure you’ve gotten a lot of reward and high fitness level out of it, but it does come with some risk factors that incredible emphasis on ultra endurance, which I would call any distance triathlon, even Olympic distance because it’s hours and hours of training out there. So a lot of research pointing to the idea that broadening our horizons, broadening our perception of what it means to be a fit person. Brad (6m 52s): Even if you do have distinct competitive goals, it can really help overall to throw in some of the stuff that you might be weak on or not really paying attention to. And I’ve had a great journey through my athletic experience to dabble in many different directions. When I was that endurance athlete strictly a runner in high school and early in college, then I transitioned to a triathlon for the next decade. And after that I had to go and realize just how pathetic and narrow and limited my fitness competency was when I was coaching little kids in soccer, basketball, and track and going out there and trying to just make it through a routine soccer scrimmage. Brad (7m 38s): I would come up sore the next day, I’d have these weird freak injuries. Like I threw my back out one time eating a bowl of eggs, like bending over to the kitchen, counter to a wolf down some eggs. And then I dropped to the ground. I couldn’t walk for five days. I tore my meniscus spontaneously at the age of 39. And what that means is I was just walking down the street with my old dog at a very slow pace. And my knee started to swell and stopped bending to the point where I had to basically limp home with my leg straight and my knee just blown up like a balloon. So obviously I didn’t do it on that walk, but whatever I was doing with my fitness pursuits, which was mainly pedaling a bicycle uphills maybe once or twice a week and going jogging on a couple other days a week. Brad (8m 29s): And I thought I was dialed in as a fit person because after all I was a former professional triathlete. But as those years start to accumulate, you realize that if you can’t make it through an under eight or an under 10 year old soccer practice, if you can’t make a contribution to the team there, cause you’re too winded. Maybe you want to pick it up a little bit, start integrating some more stop and start activities. I had a great time competing in basketball and coaching my son. And then one day he said, dad, you know, all those crazy moves you do in practice. They’re kind of ridiculous. And I think you should find your own people to play against. I’m like right on man. And that was my foray into adult league basketball. Brad (9m 10s): Yeah. And now here in the 50 plus category, you know, I’ve enjoyed things like speed golf and my particular current obsession with the event of high jump and track and field. And it requires so much, it’s a lot of technique. It’s a lot of precision and repetition to learn how your body is moving through space and especially requires that explosiveness that is completely absent in the triathlon training protocol. So I’m like a new person, a new athlete trying something that’s, you know, incredibly diverse and different challenge. But I believe in the case of High Jump too, it’s a great metaphor. Brad (9m 50s): If you can raise the bar or clear the bar, then you’re aging gracefully, right? That’s what it’s all about is just raising the bar and taking on new challenges and trying to improve. And so, you know, my event used to last anywhere from nearly two hours up to eight or nine hours for an ultra distance triathlon. And now, honestly my run-up last three or four seconds and I’m one second in the air. And so all my training is predicated to that main goal of getting over that bar. So I’m now training for a one second event and I believe I argue to my great overall fitness, health and longevity benefit versus doing the hours and hours of pedaling. Brad (10m 35s): There’s great research on here from folks like Dr. James O’Keefe. He has a Ted talk called Run for Your Life, But Not Too Far. And at a slow pace, Dr. Doug Magus, great book, which I, I’m sorry, I’m recommending it five or six or eight years after it’s been published, but it really is awesome. And I just found it. It’s called Body by Science. And a lot of research is pointing to the idea that these brief explosive physical efforts where you’re near all out, where you’re swinging the kettlebell for 15 seconds until you’re just burning or you’re doing a series of sprints, like I like to do on the athletic field. And you can see me on Instagram and on YouTube talking you through sprint workouts and jumping workouts and skipping workouts and things of that nature. Brad (11m 18s): This stuff is where you have the solid gold for longevity, health, immune function, body composition, all the benefits are predicated on pushing yourself to maximum limit once in a while, not every day, of course, and a little goes a long way because the workouts are very strenuous. And I’ve also talked about how it’s easy to overdo it. Especially in my age group, I have so much fun out there. I’m excited. I’m pumped. I get to the track. I go through my drills. I’m feeling good. I’m warmed up. I want to perfect that high jump approach. So I’ll do, instead of doing 10 full-speed approaches, I’ll do 21 or 19, and that’s probably five or six or seven too many. Brad (12m 1s): And then the next day I’ll kind of be paying for it. I’ll feel some lingering fatigue. I might have sore calf muscles that lasts for a couple of days. And so right now I’m working on and you know, my message here is that go out there, push yourself, do the explosive efforts, but leave a little in the tank, dial things back a little bit and live to see another day. So you can be more consistent over the course of a year with these high intensity workouts. That should be an integral part of your schedule. There’s a great YouTube highlights video, I think prepared by the Joe Rogan camp. So if you search and we’ll have this in the show notes too, but if you search YouTube for Joe Rogan, Firas Zahabi, Don’t Get Sore and Ferris. Brad (12m 48s): Zahabi is a noted MMA trainer, F I R A S Z A H A B I. See mom, I did the work for you there. But you find this video. It’s like a 10 minute highlight clip with great production value. And he talks about how he doesn’t really want his elite fighting athletes to come up sore due to their workout regimen, because if they’re sore, then they have to rest recover and they miss out. Whereas if they just left a little in the tank at each workout, then they can build, build, build steadily over time without the interruption caused by muscle damage and fatigue and hormone imbalances that result from a chronic approach to training. So that’s a really cool message. Brad (13m 29s): I’m trying to honor and do my best to just back off a bit and do these kind of a three quarter or 80% workouts where I’m not spent at the end. And Hey, it’s hard to know if you got to really monitor these things, take notes, maybe keep a training journal. I train almost all the time by myself with regard to my sprinting and jumping workouts. And I remember last year taking my super athletic 23 year old college athletic son out there, and I said, Hey, you want to do my little jump sequence? He said, sure. Yeah. Okay. Here’s what we do. We do 10 of these and 12 of those. And then I went over and I said, Hey, I’m just going to do some more high jump approaches before we leave. Brad (14m 12s): And we’re walking to the car and he’s like, dad, you’re 55 years old. That workout was pretty hard for me. And then you’re out doing more jumping at the end. It’s too much. And he was right. And those are the times when I’m having that a prolonged recovery periods that are unnecessary, especially if you’re not in your youthful prime or an elite athlete training for the Olympics. And there’s some of the research on the cellular and muscular damage caused by over-training or excessive workout load. And they found that genetically the elite athletes, the guys and gals who have risen to that top are more resilient than the average fitness enthusiast. Brad (14m 55s): Imagine that. So in other words, when Wayde van Niekerk the great Olympic champion from South Africa world record holder in the 400 meters, when he does a brutal training workout and wakes up the next day and feels kind of crappy and he really pushed himself too hard. And so he has to take it easy for awhile. His state of recovery, his state of physical damage is less than the average person who’s just trying to do right by their personal trainer or show up at class and, you know, punch their card for the bootcamp class. So you have less margin for error if you’re a mere mortal and over-training a bit here and there has much more damaging effects than even the superstars that you see on TV. Brad (15m 37s): So tone it down is the main message here. And that was Brian’s note that threw me onto one of my epic tirades asides monologues. So that’s why I love you guys writing in anyway, Brian didn’t have a question. He was just celebrating his long history in triathlon and sharing that he’s broadened his fitness pursuits. He says his dad’s 79 and his dad’s going to go out there and do some triathlons too. So that’s super awesome. And then we go to Rick Mueller and he says, Brad, I enjoy your work since I found you with The Keto Reset Diet. Thanks for reading man. And yeah, that was a New York Times. Brad (16m 19s): Bestseller back in 2017, seems like a long time ago. And it was the number one overall best-selling book on Amazon. For two days, we were beating out people like the President of the United States memoir and the latest greatest from John Grisham or James Patterson. So that was really cool to see the Keto movement take off and be embraced. And of course it’s still a widely embraced and very popular. Unfortunately, I feel like some of the research and the theme or the essence of the ketogenic diet has been misappropriated the more and more popular and hyped and exciting it gets. People are taking liberties with the, the initial essence of the ketogenic diet, which was to enter ketosis or to make ketones in the liver through fasting, not through eating a succession of high-fat meals and high-fat snacks and packaged boxed commercial production, things that are produced in the name of keto, especially disturbing to me is watching Shark Tank and the people with the Keto pills. Brad (17m 23s): And if you swallow these pills, you’re going to lose body fat. And let me prove it here with these before and after pictures, how absolutely ridiculous that is and what an offense to people who are really, you know, caring about their health and trying to do the right thing. So forget that nonsense. And if you’re in to Keto, congratulations, please do it the right way. Starting with you guessed it, reading The Keto Reset Diet. Anyway, that’s not what Rick was writing about. He was writing about the 10 assignments of the MOFO mission. And Hey, I was reading through the assignments and the tenants of being a MOFO and number 10 stood out to me. Yes, it’s kind of unique in case you are not able to recite them off the top of your head, I will do so for you and see which of the 10 assignments kind of stands out as not fitting right in, in the crowd with healthy eating exercise, lifestyle habits. Brad (18m 18s): So we have sleep as the first assignment. Sleep is number one, all the health practices, float downstream from getting good sleep. Then we have cleaning up your act that mostly means getting rid of junk food in the diet. Number three, we have eat ancestral foods. Number four is pound the MOFO. That means consider supplementing to re energized yourselves and nourish from burnout and depletion from lousy eating and lifestyle habits. Number five is moved frequently throughout the day. Number six is hit it hard. That means integrate the high intensity workouts. Number seven is discipline your use of technology. It’s titled take control. Number eight is protect yourself. And we’re talking about the environmental estrogens. Brad (18m 58s): Mostly on that assignment. Number nine is rest like a MOFO. That means recovery workouts, taking naps, things like that. And number 10, that is quit being a dick to your wife or girlfriend. And that is honoring John Gray’s work. The number one bestselling relationship author of all time with his books. Men are from Mars. Women are from Venus franchise, and I love how he talks in his most recent book called Beyond Mars and Venus about the hormonal underpinnings that influence modern day romantic relationships. And the evolution of culture is wonderful. We don’t longer have these dated stereotypical roles that we saw on sitcoms throughout the fifties, sixties, seventies, whatever. Brad (19m 46s): Women are now empowered to further their education. There’s more females in college and in law school than males and go out there into the workplace and be all things to all people. And males. Instead of just being this, you know, this, this stoic macho breadwinner type person. Now they’re expected to be nurturers caretakers, especially with children. And they’re supposed to be honest and vulnerable and, and sharing their feelings with their partner instead of just huffing and puffing and grumping and drinking a beer and watching TV. So all that’s fine and good, but it does present some challenges because our basic biological drives and dispositions are still the same wired in from two and a half million years of evolution. Brad (20m 31s): And so the male’s primary biological drive is to conquer one’s environment, solve problems, take tackle challenges. It’s not to be a nurturer caretaker and sharing feelings and getting into long protracted discussions about emotions and daily interactions and dynamics. And so what happens is when you kind of drift from your primary biological drives and your primary behavior patterns that are you’re, you’re programmed inside you and you drift into being the person that’s sitting on the couch and asked to enumerate, elicit one’s emotions and feelings and things of that nature or field, a litany of complaints and nitpicks from your partner. Brad (21m 17s): It’s going to challenge those primary biological drives. And it’s going to throw you off and make you feel disturbed. The modern word they use is triggered, right? And so once you leave that calm, cool collected state, and that’s what John Gray is asking that we remain calm, cool, collected, and in control of our emotions at all times. And when you’re able to do that, even in the face of a nitpicking argument or a relationship interaction, that’s not positive when you’re able to stay cool. That’s when you can optimize testosterone and avoid this slippery slope downward into diminished testosterone and elevated stress hormones. So that’s why number 10 made it onto the list because all those aforementioned that I talked about, have a direct influence on your male hormone status. Brad (22m 6s): And that’s why it’s called the MOFO mission. It’s male hormone optimization. So of course sleep is a huge one, eating the right foods, doing the right exercise, but also having healthy relationship dynamics. And you could make the argument that number 10 last, but not least could rise all the way up there. Even with sleep as primary and paramount importance for your male hormone optimization is to be the hero in the story. That’s what John Gray and others are saying is what our deep biological drive is all about. We want to be the guy that says to the partner, I got this, everything’s under control. I’ll take care of it. Don’t worry. All those kinds of things. Some of those things actually don’t fly well with the female. Brad (22m 47s): The female would rather talk it out. So that’s where we have to learn a healthy relationship interactions. But if the man can start from this disposition of being calm, cool, and collected, and oh my gosh, John Gray, the quote machine. Go back and please listen to his three interviews. And also my wrap-up show, I think titled the essential male and female assignments from John Gray. But he gives quotes like, listen, guys, you gotta be the Kung Fu master in the story. If you get into a protracted emotional argument, you’re going to diminish your testosterone. And when you say things like, quote, my feelings were hurt end quote, that is death to a relationship that is the biggest fear of the female. Brad (23m 30s): The female wants to feel protected, secure, and that her male is in a stable, a fantastic base of rock throughout whatever trials and tribulations occur in life. And so when the man says, well, yeah, I, you know, at that party, I thought you were talking to Charlie for too long, over in the corner and my feelings were hurt. That’s when you start to go downhill into a flabby floppy Mister Softee. There’s another great book called The Way of the Superior Man by David Deida and one of Brian “Liver King” Johnson’s favorite books, The Way of Men by Jack Donovan. And there are some ideas in these books that are slightly controversial because they’re wanting to go back to this old school, you know, primal ideal of the brave daring adventurous man. Brad (24m 20s): But of course these attributes can be applied to the software developing team that you’re on it. Doesn’t have to be carrying a club and going out there and killing your own meal. But it’s very interesting to me to pick and choose the things that resonate and make sense. And John Gray stuff definitely does. We just published a newsletter article this week. So I want to make sure you’re on the B.rad newsletter list because you get an automated update of what shows were published each week. And then you get a wonderful, full length newsletter with a feature article probably a couple of times a month. So if it’s going in your spam, please search for emails from Brad ventures.com and move those into your inbox or subscribe@bradkearns.com. Brad (25m 7s): But the important points here, just to kind of, you know, maintain control of your emotions. You don’t have to react and jump on every little slight offense that occurs throughout the day. And that’s when you can grow into this testosterone optimized human. And that just to keep the show moving forward is a nice, thoughtful answer to Rick Mueller’s question about why was assignment number 10? How did that make the list? Amy Noble writes in and says, Hey, Brad, great stuff. Thank you. And I have a question. What if you do a long run or a long workout at your maximum aerobic heart rate. Brad (25m 50s): Is this bad? And I think the question is coming from this idea that I’m hammering home saying that a prolonged over distance training, especially in excess can be unhealthy. And we need to really focus and prioritize on these brief explosive efforts. But here’s the thing. The long distance cardiovascular exercise at a comfortable heart rate is super healthy. And there’s few things healthier than let’s say spending the summer and hiking the John Muir trail in the Sierra Nevada is or hiking the Appalachian trail, right? If you’re out there every day in the sunshine, fresh air, one foot in front of the other experiencing nature, appreciating nature, that’s hard to beat. It’s certainly superior to being locked in a box, staring at a screen. Brad (26m 33s): But to put more context to the question, when you’re doing a pattern of these over distance workouts at slightly too significantly, too elevated of a heart rate, it becomes a stressful event and a stressful lifestyle. Research recently communicated on a great new podcast called the Huberman lab podcast by Stanford neuroscientist, Dr. Andrew Huberman. He’s talking about this 75 minute mark as an important checkpoint. So if you’re doing a somewhat vigorous strenuous workout and it extends beyond the 75 minute mark, you start to chronically overproduce or overstimulate fight or flight response and put cortisol pumping through your bloodstream to allow you to continue such a long duration workout. Brad (27m 22s): And this suppresses the adaptive hormone spike that is so desirable when we do brief intense explosive exercise. So you’re going to blunt testosterone, human growth hormone. You’re going to suppress immune function, especially if you do these types of runs routinely. So I’m going to contend that it’s a really bad deal to go out there and do a long run every Sunday with a pack of people that are faster and fitter than you, to the extent that you’re significantly exceeding your maximum aerobic heart rate. And you’re performing a very stressful, a very stressful act to the body. And I know we have great bestselling books like Born to Run. Brad (28m 2s): And this notion that we see a lot in headline articles that humans were were, were born to run and adapted to run. And that’s why we have our evolutionary hunting advantage. And the truth is yes, indeed. We are a wonderful endurance creatures. We have the best endurance of any creatures on the planet. We can stand upright. We can sweat. We have all these adaptations that we evolve to be really good at, but we’re born to do it once in a while in life or death circumstances that our hunter gatherer ancestors faced basically. So they would go and hunt a beast. They do, what’s called a persistence hunt where they would wear the animals down until they became exhausted overheated. And then they would get their kill and bring it back to camp. Brad (28m 45s): But we are not evolved or adapted to train for the modern day endurance competitions that we see with these crazy training regimens. Like I myself endured for nine years when I was competing on the professional triathlon circuit. That is pure modern folly. It is not aligned with evolutionary expectations or genetic expectations for health. And in many cases, in many examples, it can come at a mild to significant compromise to your health, Dr. Tommy Wood, one of my favorite podcast guests, one of the smartest guys out there, and you can find him easily on the internet and see what he’s up to and what he has to say. He’s a pediatric physician at University of Washington and former head of the Ancestral Health Society. Brad (29m 32s): So he’s deep into this stuff and he makes this contention that today’s modern day endurance athlete performs more physical work than any human who’s ever lived. And it’s vastly in excess of what’s necessary to survive. So we may have over-glorified our primal ancestors when we drew that a logo of Grok, The Original Primal Blueprint logo of this muscled fit guy, because the truth is, and this is known from study of modern day hunter gatherers, like the Hadza in Tanzania, the Bushmen in the Kalahari desert, the Ache society in Paraguay is that they are really good at surviving. They’re really smart in the natural world, but they’re not necessarily super fit creatures because they don’t need to be. Brad (30m 18s): They do the bare minimum necessary to survive. And then they chill. So that has little to do with Matt Frazier’s training regimen. And if you never heard of him, you better YouTube, Google this guy. He’s the, the CrossFit games legend. I think he won five years in a row or something. And my main man, Dude Spellings former podcast guest, he sent me a little text after Matt Frazier won his last consecutive CrossFit games. And he says, Matt Frazier is the fittest human who’s ever lived on earth. Care to have any objection to that?, And I’m like, that’s a pretty good statement right there, man. And I’m defining fit here as, you know, being able to perform these extreme challenges that they serve up at the CrossFit games. Brad (31m 1s): Cause there’s some pretty awesome athletes in the NFL and at track and field at the Olympics or swimming or whatever sport you like, but it’s not that complete emphasis on actual human energy expenditure calorie expenditure to the extreme of what guys like Matt Frazier and his ilk can do at the CrossFit games. It’s absolutely stunning. But again, it’s so extreme that it departs from any, any evolutionary rationale and it’s pure modern folly as Tommy Wood would say. All right. So back to the questions, thank you, Amy. You get more than you bargained for when you ask a simple question. Brad (31m 42s): Hey Brad, thanks for the great information on the carnivore scores, food rankings chart. What is that you ask? Oh my gosh, you must, must, must download a copy of this PDF. So go onto Instagram, please follow the Brad Kearns account. And one of the recent posts you’ll see this chart and you can, I believe click on that or follow the link in the, the bio on Instagram. Or if you go to Brad kearns.com, you can find it over in the blog articles. I’m going to make it more prominent on the new website coming soon. It’s going to be spectacular. But anyway, my friend, Kate Cretsigner super extreme long distance endurance, cyclist and carnivore fueled female athlete created this wonderful chart that ranks the most nutrient dense foods on earth in different tiers. Brad (32m 33s): And spoiler. The very top tier would be liver, oysters, and salmon eggs. Those are the most nutritionally dense foods on the planet. And then we go down into different tiers and we have the organ meats like liver, heart. We have bone broth in that category. And this question does bovine colostrum have a place on the carnivore scores chart? And it certainly does because we’re talking about nose to tail animal foods. And so we have these agents that are super hard to find in the modern food supply because we’ve ignored them, disgraced them rejected our ancestral heritage, wherever you’re from France, Mexico, you know, traditional Eskimo, native American. Brad (33m 14s): We used to eat nose to tail all over the world, and now we pretty much eat steaks and hamburger and processed food. So bovine colostrum, which you can get in capsule form from Ancestral Supplements. Fortunately, in case you’re not getting a lot of colostrum in your diet naturally from eating the entire cow. Yes. Great question. And it’s, you know, known as, or it’s often called the number one superfood because it’s the prominent ingredient in mother’s milk. So fun times there. And thank you so much for pointing that out. I don’t think I got the name because I think the next question is from Mike, from Maryland, but that also might’ve been from Mike, but anyway, let’s get down into Mike’s next thing or first thing. Brad (33m 57s): Well, so I was asking about MOFO, Hey, time for a commercial in the middle of the show. Thanks for teeing me up, Mike, this, the male optimization formula with organs from Ancestral Supplements. If you haven’t heard of it, I guess you hadn’t listened to the show that much cause there’s commercials for it. And I find a way to mention it now. And then especially when it comes from a question form. So go to Brad kearns.com, click on MOFO, and you’ll learn all about this wonderful product. And Mike wants to know some details about how the product works, what it’s done for you. So have a nice quote from the, the extensive content that I put on that page. Brad (34m 38s): Radio isotope labeling studies in animals have shown conclusively that when eaten, organs and glands selectively travel to the corresponding organs and glands in high concentrations in the body, this research done at university of Scotland and Edinburgh lends credence to the ancient practice of eating animal organs to help ensure health in one’s corresponding organs. So this ancient ancestral practice is known as like supports. Like it’s a fundamental tenant of Chinese medicine. It’s a centerpiece of native American tradition and many other cultures throughout the world. Where if the old medicine man saw someone with a weak heart, they would feed that citizen heart and expect a recovery. Brad (35m 19s): So if we fast forward to modern science and everything wants to be scrutinized and we don’t want to go all the way we will throughout our life. I have my favorite resource for this Dr. Cate Shanahan, author of Deep Nutrition, check her out at Dr. Cate C A T E.com. And I asked her, Hey, Cate, what about this? Like supports, like that’s maybe not the, not the top of your tip of your tongue when you talk to your family physician or someone in the traditional nutrition, dietician medical role. Right? It’s kind of like, yeah, they used to do that in the old days. And yeah, there’s a study here and there, but it might not be the centerpiece of modern health and nutrition science. Brad (36m 4s): But what she said was when you’re consuming, let’s say testicles, like you get in MOFO or prostate, the other lead ingredient in MOFO, you are getting the exact agents, the exact nutritional profile that nourish and support testicular function in the human because we work on the same biological pathways as the animals that we’re consuming in this case from bovine sources. Paul Saladino talks about this with great scientific reference and detail. So I’m giving you the lay person’s take here. But when you consume, let’s say capsules of liver or capsules that contain in the case of MOFO, it’s testicles, by and large, the predominant ingredient. Brad (36m 49s): Then we have prostate heart liver and bone marrow. Those agents contain the proteins, peptides, enzymes, co-factors and molecular bio directors that nourish the function of the corresponding organs in the human body. So if we take like a, a random example that freeze dried testicles are high in vitamin A maybe vitamin A is extremely critical for testosterone production in the human body. And so on down the line. And we know that liver is the it’s called the control tower for the dispensation of all manner of nutrition and calories and macronutrients, micronutrients to cells and tissues throughout the body. Brad (37m 30s): That’s what the liver is. That’s why it’s so important. If your liver fails from fatty liver disease, non-alcoholic fatty liver disease or alcoholic fatty liver disease, your days are numbered. And so the reason the liver is so important is it’s the control tower. Everything goes through the liver. Guess what else it is then? It’s the highest concentration of nutrients anywhere in any animal food. Okay. So that’s why the liver is the centerpiece of the ancestral diet. The ancient traditions. The hunters would feast on the liver immediately after the fresh kill in the field. They’d eat it warm, they’d go right for it, cut it out and celebrate the hunt and then bring the rest of the carcass back to camp. Brad (38m 10s): And it’s known that animals in the wild have the instinct, the instinctual behavior is they bring down their kill. So for watching on animal planet and the cheetah chases down the lion, it will go straight for the liver and consume that first knowing, intuitively knowing, that it is the highest prize, highest nutritional value. So there is plenty of scientific support for this from a buttoned down hard and fast medical researchers. And that’s what that’s world that Dr. Cate travels in. And she also has a wonderful blending of her ancestral wisdom and her book, Deep Nutrition pretty much pulls it together, as good as you’ll see from any other book. Brad (38m 57s): A little extra quote, too, from the Weston, a price foundation and the legendary Dr. Weston A Price, who worked about a hundred years ago. So in the early 20th century, he conducted landmark research on isolated ancestral living populations across the globe. And it revealed a tremendous emphasis on organ meats in the traditional diet. Price believed that these nose to tail habits were a key contributor to the robust health of ancestral populations. In traditional ethical ethnic cuisine today, you can still see a deep appreciation for and creativity with cooking organs. So I mentioned how this likes supports like works on a scientific level as well as on that spiritual level. Brad (39m 40s): If you want to bring that element in there, or if you want to discount 3000 years of Chinese medicine and all that feel free. But there’s so much support for this. And that’s why I’m super excited to promote a consumable product, which you want to be careful with. Right? But this thing is the real deal. And I’ve been consuming a lot of Ancestral Supplements products for, it looks like about two and a half years now, when I first met Brian Johnson and I started in a, with an aggressive regimen of trying this stuff out. And I would urge you to put it in a different category than buying yet another nutritional supplement. Maybe your cabinets already full of them, or maybe you’re sick of them, or don’t believe in them. Brad (40m 22s): This is technically and literally a food supplement rather than a vitamin or a nutritional supplement. That’s been extracted through chemical means in a laboratory. So all it is is completely pure, no fillers, additives, or other agents freeze dried animal organs. So they’re not even cooked. They’re in very high nutritional potency. So if nothing else, you’re getting the multivitamin to blow away any other multivitamin on the planet. Again, it’s in its natural state. And that’s super important when you’re talking about consuming agents. And I think most people are familiar with this concept where if you isolate the, the resveratrol that’s found in the grape and take it in pill form, it’s greatly inferior to consuming the foods that are high in these wonderful phytonutrients antioxidants, whatever you’re talking about. Brad (41m 15s): So the organs are a great place to go for extreme nutrient density. And there’s a whole list of agents that they’re high in that you can read on Bradkearns.com/MOFO, things like vitamin D, K, and E, which are difficult to obtain anywhere else besides organ meats and the whole mineral group, things like colene, chromium, copper foliate, hyaluronic acid, selenium, and zinc vitamin the B complex family coenzyme Q 10. I remember I mentioned that heart is one of the agents in the product and Co Q 10 is especially beneficial for your heart. And so if you’re taking a freeze dried, actual molecular composition of the bovine heart, you’re getting a wonderful dose of highly bio available Co Q 10. Brad (42m 2s): So if you take a, a supplement of beta carotene or you eat a bunch of carrots, right? Beta carotene is eventually converted into vitamin A, the fully formed version of vitamin A known as retinol, but it takes a complex chain of chemical reactions. A great percentage of people don’t have the genetics to efficiently convert beta carotene into vitamin A. So some of these supplements are quite likely a waste of time and useless. Some of them can be actually negative if they’re processed with a bunch of outside agents, but in that beta carotene example, and again, Saladino pushes this point home really well that, you know, you’re doing a 21 times more complex chemical reaction than just consuming straight vitamin A in its fully formed state, which is liver offers by far the highest level of vitamin A of any other food. Brad (42m 59s): And that’s a super important hormone vitamin for all kinds of things, especially cell repair, immune support and testosterone. Okay. That was a, a big load there, people. Thank you for listening. Hope you got a lot of value out of it and keep the emails coming podcast@bradventures.com. I got plenty more to cover, so we will get right back into it at a future show. Thank you For listening to the show. 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